Friday, 2 July 2021

[enter-talk] HI, THIS IS THE PARTY INVOLVED WITH KWON XX'S CHEATING SCANDAL

Hi I'm the person who dated briefly around 3 years with my ex-boyfriend Yoo and was involved in the post which became a huge issue last week.
After the issue broke out, I was ruminating over the best way I could deal with the issue. There were a lot of parts where I felt wronged from what Kwon and Yoo posted, and I felt like it will be right for me to wrap this case with my own hands, which led me to write this post

First of all I will clarify all the events that happened from the day Kwon sent her DM to Yoo to the day Kwon and Yoo posted their picture. 

1. June 10th 2021: 1st DM 

The day when Kwon asked Yoo to draw herself through DM. On that day, at around 2PM, Yoo saw that he received a request from IG from a celebrity and he told me about it. I remember that we were both so intrigued that a celebrity would contact him. On the same day, at night, I told Yoo to send me a screenshot of the DM as a "souvenir" of him receiving Kwon's DM. This is the proof picture

t/n: You can read the content here
I could've never fathom that Kwon and Yoo's relationship would unfold in this manner at that point in time. And the fact that Yoo sent me the DM himself, he wanted to boast about it, so I think we were still on the same page at that point. 
Furthermore, at that point, the DMs that Yoo sent to Kwon and the answers that Kwon sent to Yoo, there was nothing flirtatious between the exchanges. I've never seen the messages that Yoo sent to Kwon in support of her when I looked at his cellphone myself, the attached picture above is everything that I've seen. 

2. June 24th 2021, 2PM - Appointment with the army senior, he went out

At 2PM on the 24th, Yoo said that he had to go to Sinchon to meet a senior from the army so I walked him until near the station and I went home after. On that day, Yoo said he went to drink with his senior and was going to sleep in. As you can see in the katalk chat's content, this was just your average couple talk. To be honest, I told him to not get bored on his way there so I even lent him my airpods. 

Yoo told them (t/n: not sure who this is, probably referring to Mina) that he was in a stage of ennui with me, that we didn't get along that well, but I've never heard or acted that way with him. I will explain the content of the texts


(June 24th)
Yoo:
- OP, I didn't get to see you leave once again TT TT

OP: 
- It's okay, I'm done now and I'm waiting for the bus

Yoo: 
- Why is XX station so far

OP:
- It's further than you think LOL even taking the bus, it takes a while

Yoo: 
- I haven't been to XX station for a while so I forgot LOL I felt like XX station was way closer

OP: 
- That's right, did you take the subway?

Yoo: 
- Yup just now. I only have 2 stops left. I'll transfer then 

OP:
- It's a relief that you went right away, you won't be late!

Yoo: 
- Darling what are you doing now?

OP:
- I just finished washing my feet LOL 


Yoo: 
- Alright LOL darling, you need to prepare for classes now, there's only 12 minutes left

OP: 
- Ok I know, I'll text you when I'm done

Yoo: 
- Alright have fun in your class. I'm going out for a smoke

OP: 
- Seems like you arrived right on time, oppa did you meet him?

Yoo:
- Yup we're talking 

OP: 
- The teacher said that he'll start the class as soon as the students gets there so I'm waiting TT TT

Yoo: 
- LOL 

3. June 24th 2021 to 25th at 6PM : our normal conversation

After meeting with the senior from the army, this was the usual conversation we had. Do you think that this kind of conversation is the kind of conversation someone in their stage of ennui is..? Yoo always asks stuff like "are you eating well?" "what are you doing?" etc. of course, I would reciprocate and act similarly with him. Until Yoo cut contact with me, I wasn't made aware of any of that. I'm only revealing information that doesn't include my own personal information, please understand

Yoo: 
- Yeah I wasn't hungry so I only ordered raw beef. You're good with egg soy sauce rice?

OP:
- Yeah, raw beef sounds good, eat a lot 

Yoo: 
- Ok, darling what are you doing?

OP: 
- I'm debating on what to do 

Yoo: 
- Wasn't your class at 3pm today??

OP:
- Yup after 3pm I have no classes. There was a mistake (?) yesterday

Yoo: 
- Then what are you gonna do now? 

OP:
- I'm watching Youtube

Yoo: 
- What are you watching? 

OP: 
- I'll sleep soon 

Yoo: 
- TT TT You're sleeping (already)?

OP: 
- I feel like I'll fall alseep TT TT but I can't sleep LOL 

Yoo: 
- LOL I'm still drinking, it's my 2nd bottle of soju

OP: 
- Don't only eat the raw beef, eat something else too 

Yoo: 
- Got it TT TT

OP: 
- Eat/drink moderately, have fun~~

Yoo: 
- Okay

OP: 
- Did you wake up? I just fought with my unnie

Yoo: 
- Why????

OP: 
- She's so shameless and she makes it too obvious, I got mad and we fought. She acts like a beggar. I'll tell you later

Yoo: 
- TT TT Wait

OP: 
- Yeah? Are you very busy? I set an alarm, I'll sleep an hour and wake up

Yoo: 
- Okay TT TT

4. 5PM on June 25th 2021: He wouldn't even reply anymore even after many attempts

At 5PM on the 25th, he would still be on Katalk, but he didn't answer the phone anymore. His Katalks became rarer and at that point, I thought something was getting strange
I was of course mad that he stopped contacting but I got worried too 
I already showed our Katalk conversations but here's the history of our calls

5PM June 25th (cancelled call)


6:56PM - cancelled 
6:47PM - cancelled
6:37PM - cancelled

5. At night on the 25th: contacted Yoo's friend

I was worried because Yoo stopped accepting calls so I contacted someone who knows Yoo to ask whether they could get in touch with him. Yoo contacted my friend directly. But Yoo refused picking up from his friend when the friend was the one calling. There was in fact a conversation exchanged between the 2 but the friend isn't directly related to this case, so they refused sharing the content of the call, please understand.

6. June 25th 2021, 7:42PM - Call with Yoo

After the friend attempted their call, not long after, Yoo contacted me right after. We spoke about a lot of things, but I'll only lay out the important parts. I didn't record it, so I'm trying to recollect the conversation as faithfully as possible. A is me and B is Yoo. 

A: What were you doing?
B: I was at the cafe. I was chatting with the army senior. The senior is waiting on me. 
A: When are you coming back?
B: Didn't I tell you I'd stay one more day?
A: I'm having a hard time with something right now, can't you come back today?
B: I told you I'd come tomorrow. Can't I hang out too?
A: I've always told you "You'll get depressed if you stayed home so go out more often to lift your mood" what are you saying? And why couldn't you be reached?
B: Let's take a break to think about us
A: Out of the blue? What are you saying?
B: I think that our personalities are too different

After the random comment made by Yoo, I was just too taken aback so we exchanged about a lot of things. There was one thing that made me suspicious about Yoo among the things we've spoken about. And we definitely didn't raise the topic of break up. 

B: Anyways, it's not gonna work now, I'll come back tomorrow night, so let's chat tomorrow
A: Can you come back in the morning instead of the night?
B: Okay I'll come back in the morning
A: I don't wanna wait without a commitment, so please decide on a time. It'll help me ease out my worries too
B: I'll tell you about the approximate time after I've evaluated the situation 

After that, he hung up. The content below is the conversation we exchanged after. 
Logically speaking, would the person who breaks up feel sorry and will try to inquire about whether you're feeling well? This is the conversation we exchanged after we spoke and this wasn't  a conversation of a broken couple up. 

Yoo: 
- Sorry 

OP: 
- I hope you'll feel better soon

Yoo:
- I'll make sure I'll feel better 

OP:
- Everything will be fine, me too I'll try to think of it positively. You said that you lost strength because of me and I've been caught up on this, So I'm sorry as well 

Yoo: 
- No you don't need to be sorry 

OP: 
- Please keep your promise for tomorrow

7. On June 26th 12PM - Kwon released her picture on IG 

On the 26th, one of the foreigner followers sent me the photo through DM 
After debating for a while, I sent a katalk to Yoo


OP: (boyfriend name)-ah
Yoo: I have nothing to say to you anymore. I'm sorry for hurting you until the end

Up until that moment, we clearly haven't broken up yet. You can tell that we've been seeing each other just fine and that I clearly got cheated on. 
It's regretful that I wasn't able to record our phone conversation, but you can tell just from the conversation we shared after our phone call that what I said about our phone conversation is true. 

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This is what I think happened with Yoo's and Kwon's statements

1. Yoo and Kwon said that I refused to respond to them trying to reach out

I've mentioned on my IG that Yoo and Kwon have never contacted me. 
First of all, I exchanged a small conversation with Kwon on IG, and I've only been able to call Yoo twice, both times, I haven't heard anything else from him. Furthermore, one of the 2 times he called me, it felt like a mistake because he hung up right away. 
I have no idea of knowing Kwon's phone number and I never answer phone numbers that I don't know of so it's possible that she tried calling me but it's impossible to know. 
She wrote on her IG that I unilaterally refused to accept her attempts to reach out with her nuanced post, but I haven't deleted any of the records from the DMs to the Katalk that we've sent. 
And even if I were to ignore those 2's attempts to reach out, I don't think I should be criticized for it 

2. The DM I shared with Kwon

After Kwon shared the picture, I and her shared DMs with each other. I've never sworn at her. Below is everything that we spoke about. When Kwon tried to visit my account, I got worried that my personal information would go out, so I privated everything. There's nothing that was edited in the content that I'm sharing. And the part where I'm saying to 'stop contacting me' wasn't referring to Yoo trying to reach out several times, we only called each other twice. It was because I received Kwon's DM after I called him. 

OP: Unnie, so you're going to start seeing my boyfriend..?

Mina: Do you know me? Who are you?

OP: Didn't you tell him that it was nice seeing him with his girlfriend?
 (sends capture of chat between Mina and Yoo where Mina tells him "It's so nice to see your girlfriend too!")

Mina: Ah that guy? So why are you sending me a DM now? You guys broke up and he's seeing me now. Is this a problem?

Mina: I received a DM from (Yoo) and I replied. I asked him for a drawing and we started contacting each other and became close. And that's how we ended up dating. He already wrapped things up with your side.

OP: If we really broke up, why would my feed and his feed still have pictures of us together? I don't understand why you're pretending like you don't know what happened. Do you think it makes any sense that even if he were to start seeing you, that my boyfriend would keep pictures of his ex-girlfriend on his IG? Unnie, even on the day you posted that picture, our pictures were still there too. I'm telling you frankly, unnie, you've released the picture before we actually broke up. We only broke up after I saw that picture and the articles that came out. (tn: next picture) With the circumstances at hand, I don't think it's possible that you didn't know. Tell YooXX to stop calling me. I'm the victim so I don't understand why I'm the one being tormented here.



Mina: You're the one who DMed me first so I went to look at your profile. There's not even a single picture there. I've never looked at Yoo's IG from the time I started seeing Yoo. Of course, as we spoke, he said that he already wrapped things with you so that's why we stated dating. That's why we're being public with our relationship for the first time. 
I'm a public figure too, do you think I would date someone who haven't wrapped things up with someone else before dating them? And we're calling each other now, I don't know what's the relationship between you two, but he said he'll make sure you understand it's over between you too, maybe you're the one who couldn't accept it..


Mina: And I'm sorry but I think one of your friend is leaving comments about me right now, there was also a post made on Pann. This is something different from the actual situation, those are lies. Me too I'm receiving a lot of attacks and I'm in a difficult situation right now. If they're planning to keep spreading bad talks about me, I hope you're able to resolve this for me. Me too I have an agency, I've given you the proper explanation too, anyways, I think that those actions aren't right. I know you're 5 years younger than me, but your friend is leaving comments using informal speech like that... I think you should pick up Yoo's calls.

This is the date I first exchanged DMs with Kwon. You can see the time that we chatted below too. 


3. The part related to my dad

Kwon said on her IG that my dad wrote to her by swearing and threatening her and then edited. Kwon claimed that my dad sent her death threats and called her a h**ker. I'm saying this once again, but my dad has no idea who Kwon even is and he doesn't even know her group. I'm saying this as a matter of fact. The text was also not meant for Kwon but for Yoo. Furthermore, the text did not say 'kill' or even any high-level abusive language. After the incident, my face with Yoo's face were floating around internet, and my father, who was angry and worried about this, sent a text message to Yoo. Briefly, the content of the text was telling him to never appear in front of me again after deleting the post Yoo wrote, and not to post any related posts on social media anymore. The ‘Check in 10 minutes’ means to delete the post within 10 minutes, but I was even more shocked that the article was published as if my dad sent her death threats. Next, 'Shut up and stay dead' means to be as quiet as you are dead, but I admit that it was a hasty choice and I apologize on my dad's behalf for being harsh. Because of Yoo and Kwon, I suffered a lot of damage while the only thing I did was breath. Because of this situation, my father couldn't help himself but be angry at the situation. Also, because of Kwon's post, several articles appeared as if my father really did those things. Any parent in the world can't help but get angry when their child is unfairly caught up in something big... .


Father: Yoo, Shut up and take down what you wrote so that those useless comments disappear, act as if you were dead. If you're this thoughtless, just do as I'm saying. If you two say another word, I'm definitely going to get involved. Don't make things worse, shut up and act dead. 
I'm checking again in 10 minutes. If you've not taken any measures on this, you'll meet me. It's up to you to try me. Don't stir the pot and take this advice if you want to resolve this issue. You bast*rd sure are a bad person.

4. Regarding our couple being in a stage of ennui

I wasn't expecting to say more about this part, but please see some screenshot about me and Yoo using the Sumone app (t/n: app for couples that lets you write sweet messages in a 'situational questionnaire' format). Yoo was the one who named me "Belle". Yoo quit the app after the controversy so the name was changed automatically to "My love back then". This was what was shared before the controversy broke

(June 17th 2021 t/n: around 10 days before he was caught cheating)
Question #168: What is one advice you would like to give your lover?
Belle (OP): Kiss me more often~~~~
My love back then (Yoo): You're envious right? It's this hard to find such a pretty and kind kid?

(June 6th)
Question #160: How much do you know that person? What do you like about the other party?
Belle (OP): Ps5, soccer, OP, drawing, clothes, shoes, GD, when OP is tying hair, cola, computer, etc.
My love back then (Yoo): What OP likes the most is Yoo and XX.

(t/n: we will not translate everything, but you get the idea, OP was affectionate with Yoo throughout June, during the time Yoo was in contact with Mina) 

post response:
[+6,359][-84]
original post: here

1. [+2,444, -24]
I'm having goosebumps over the fact that Kwon Mina is acting as if she received the text when the dad sent those to OP's ex-boyfriendㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ She's already acting so ambiguous with her situation with AOA and made the members receive all the hate, but she's using the same technique when framing up that nurse, the more I see her the more she's a sight to watch damn ^^... 

2. [+2,265, -40]
I'm the friend that OP was referring about. She's a friend that I treasure a lot and after this incident broke, my friend came to reach out in a rush, yet my friend still tried to remain calm, which broke my heart and I felt so upset for her.. I've met that ex-bf f*cker in-person in the past, and he would stick like gum to my friend for the past 3 years, no matter where they were going so everyone around her knew who he was. That's why I can't believe any of the bullsh*t he's saying right nowㅋㅋㅋ  To see that he threw away those past 3 years for a public figure and made such a huge controversy with it because of that crazy woman is just.... As someone who saw this incident unfold on the side, I'm extremely dumbfounded and angry. The way Kwon Mina treated this case in such a sloppy way made herself look even more childish than my friend who's a 98'er. I told my friend that she's been wronged by this and that she shouldn't be staying still so she should be writing this post, so please don't blame my friend for this post and don't be harsh against her. As you can see, there she did nothing wrong, she was staying still and she got stabbed in the back because of me. To the general public, this might just be media gossip, but this is a situation where my friend will take a lot of time to recover from. I also don't wish to see Kwon Mina ever again on media. It offends me just having the thought of it

3. [+1,856, -20]
Kwon Mina will probably post something again once she reads this post ㅋㅋ

4. [+1,342, -19]
We need to re-evaluate this for real. Everything that Kwon Mina has said until now were only fiction level;; From what she claimed about the boyfriend, the father and OPㅋㅋ
Jimin: fiction

5. [+1,260, -4]
You can tell that the ex-bf(trash) had no intentions of breaking up with OP, but thought "what an opportunity to date a celebrity~" and made up an excuse he would meet with his army senior in case Mina wasn't actually going to show up. But he got easily charmed the moment they metㅋㅋㅋ And easily gave himself in and started doing lovestagram thinking "F*ck it I'll give it a go. If I don't take this chance, I'll regret forever and I'll never have such an opportunity again". Now he's trying to gaslight as much as he can, I just hope he gets his karma back ^^



[enter-talk] THE REPLY I GOT FROM MINA

"OP: It really wasn't cheating??

Mina: That's right. I like collecting drawings and I even have katalk chats about being ok with just receiving through delivery. I thought about his girlfriend so I have katalk chats about repeatedly asking him if his girlfriend was ok with this. But at that point, I heard that their feelings already grew apart and don't know the details. I just treated that man like all my other fans. Of course, I have too many DMs to go through all of them so I only choose the ones who really supported me and did my best to reply them.. It's not cheating. Then why would I upload the picture? If he was still seeing his girlfriend, do you think that I would've uploaded the picture?.. Sigh, I have thoughts too and I am preparing for my return.. Even though I'm trying my best to live as my usual carefree and honest self, I'm not a fool.. I'm upset.."

post response:
[+305][-24]
original post: here

1. [+432, -5]
Crazy b*tch, look at her changing her story againㅋㅋㅋ in the DMs that she shared herself, she said that she was gonna get the drawing herself but is now bullsh*tting about receiving a deliveryㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ At this point, this has transcended mythomania. It's to the point of having Ripley's syndrome

2. [+403, -4]
Is there a place that will welcome her even if she returns?ㅋㅋ It's obvious that if something gets on her nerves on the filming set, she'll start writing posts about how the director is an assailant 

3. [+323, -6]
Looks like she still is missing the point here.... ever since she started writing her posts, I could feel how empty headed she is but I didn't know that it would be this bad... no but you were already in the wrong from the moment when you asked for a drawing and said that you would personally go get it you ahjumma with a seniority complex.

4. [+123, -1]
This is daebak.....ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ no but she's clearly on Instragram so why isn't she writing any clarification?ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

5. [+108, -1]
She sent 12 lines of texts in one message. I can't breathe

6. [+81, 0]
..?... a delivery..? But you said you were gonna go get it yourself..
"Mina: [...] once it's completed, I'll go get it"


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