Wednesday, May 18, 2016

[enter-talk] CANCELLATION OF COPYRIGHTS FOR SEVENTEEN'S HOSHI


the Q&A is about the choreography of Seventeen:
Q: I was curious about their works so I'll ask some questions. Since the singers are participating in the making of the choreography, does the company have any supervision in it?
A: The company are the ones who publish it. They first have to make an inquiry by email

Q: So the company is the one who registers everything by them making inquiries?
A: That's right

Q: If so, then the company is in charge of what to register and delete it afterwards?
A: Since everything is sent through email, we're in charge of looking over the emails

Q: Can you confirm this for me if possible? Does the company issue any copyright claims over their works/choreography?
A: Are you talking about those 3 songs? (t/n: I guess they're talking about adore U, Mansae and Pretty U)

Q: There are those 3 songs and also their full album and their mini album, they were in charge of all those choreography, I want to confirm that they have copyright claims over them.
A: Please remain on the line, I will confirm this for you

Q: First of all, there are Seventeen's Kwon Soonyoung, Moon Junhee, Seo Myungho, and Lee Chan who are in charge of making the choreography. please let us know the dates when their works got registered and deleted.
A: The date where it was registered was on May 9th and the day were it got deleted was on May 12th.

Q: So once the company receives their request, you delete it afterwards?
A: That's right

Q: Adore U and Mansae were both produced by them, if there's anything to change (from group to individual creation), what happens?
A: The date to alter thing is on May 11th (by mail), and they have to request it to the company. if they can't reach our employees, they have to come to the company and request it here and the company would decide.

Q: So do you know about whether the changes will pass or be cancelled?
A: If it's not written in the email, we wouldn't know either

Q: When they send their inquiries or changes through email to Pledis, you don't tell them the reason you refuse their inquiries?
A: We don't include these contents (t/n: AKA they don't)

I tried to contact them once again to get the confirmation for their copyright claims

Q: Regarding Pretty U's choreography, they could make revisions until the 12th right?
A: That's right. When it reaches Pledis, it will have to be first approved by Choi Youngjoon individually. Later, they had to change it into a group inquiry and register once again

Q: What about the royalties regarding their choreography?
A: The choreography's  royalties will be decided after deciding whether to put copyrights on it through requests and having taken into account the costs and differences of each song.

This is what Pledis told us, that there are no guarantee to the right of copyrights or receiving royalties for Seventeen's works and they also told the fans that everything Seventeen make have to be requested then registered and the traces are being deleted later. What kind of singer would trust in such companies?

When the fan tried to contact them this time, they were beating around the bushes and when asked about whether they had copyrights, they said that it would be done through requesting, but don't think that requesting would automatically mean that they will pass it.

Ultimately, we're asking feedback from Pledis



Soonyoungie making the choreography... My heart hurtsㅠㅠ

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ㅇㅇ |2016.05.18 17:35 
Seventeen are in charge of choreography and songs making. The reason why is that they wouldn't be able to debut if they couldn't do these things. And then there were media play about them being the "self-produced group", and glamorized all the benefits. They removed all their rings during Seventeen project, which was their reality show before debut and made them stay up all night just to make choreographies and wite songs. They used them to media play while lying to the kids, seeing this as a fan really hurts me to know that everything they do, even for copyrights have to be requested and approved;; Please give Soonyoung and the performance team, as well as Seungkwan and Dokyum the copyrighted pay that they deserve
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ㅇㅇ |2016.05.18 18:03 
I've been a fan ever since their pre-debut days, I know that Pledis have a lot of fights and disagreements here and there all the times. But this is a question of human rights, so please give us feedback and fast, and don't come back on your words. I've always felt that Seventeen were being exploited by Pledis. At least, you should have enough conscience to reward for all the hard work that Soonyoungie made, I think I've overestimated you Pledis. If you're too proud to even apologize to the fans for this, don't use the kids to cover up your mistakes. The kids all believe in your company and they haven't even been on one vacation yet, instead, you're locking teens in a practice room all day, all I'm asking is to at least treat them with more affection. Seventeen's kind kids, I'll always support you and let's hit the long run.
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ㅇㅇ |2016.05.18 17:51 
Is it their hobby to make kids work their hardest then crush them down like that..Imagine those people looking at Soonyoung staying all night to choreograph and all the members making effortㅋㅋ.......
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ㅇㅇ |2016.05.18 19:50 
no but seriously what kind of company even does thatㅋㅋㅋㅌㅌㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋthis is really the most absurd companyㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
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ㅇ |2016.05.18 20:02 
Let's switch Pledis into Hooredis (Bastard-dis) or Sledis (Barbage-dis)!
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ㅇㅇ |2016.05.18 17:58 
They turned the kids into fools, I know how hurt they must be, this is way too much.
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