Sunday, February 28, 2021

[theqoo] PLEDIS STATEMENT REGARDING SEVENTEEN'S MINGYU

Hello.
This is PLEDIS Entertainment.

We would like to provide a statement regarding our company’s position on the claims posted online regarding SEVENTEEN member MINGYU’s behavior as a student.

First, please allow us to apologize for not issuing an immediate response.

After the claims were posted online, our company examined the information regarding the artist as well as the surrounding circumstances. During this process, we were able to verify that there were certain discrepancies between the information posted online and what we were able to verify from the artist.

With the continued surfacing of school violence-related issues across our society, our company determined that a clear verification of the facts must take priority, and we are carefully examining all the issues. We would like to apologize that this process has delayed our response.

As we have noted, our company has contacted the parties involved through a variety of methods to ascertain the facts of this issue. We are still in the process of reaching out, and we have spoken with numerous acquaintances of the artist including his classmates.

First, regarding what we have been able to verify to date, the claim that the artist abused a classmate with a disability is completely false.

The artist himself clearly remembered the person identified in the claim as the victim, and we were able to contact and discuss the issue with this person’s mother, who confirmed that the student was in fact on very good terms with the artist. She remembered the names of the students who did abuse the victim in school, and was able to verify this information for us immediately.

This person is currently leading an ordinary life as a private individual and feels uncomfortable that the past has been discussed publicly without consent. Despite this, the former classmate generously verified the facts for the sake of the artist.

Our company is carefully examining the other issues. However, as identifying the original posters of the allegations is difficult, and as some posters have expressed the desire not to be contacted, we are compelled to proceed with caution.

We respect the wishes of those who wish not to be contacted. If we are given the opportunity, we are always willing to meet anyone to examine the facts and carry out the necessary measures to address these issues.

We believe that the issue of school violence, a serious problem today, must be considered foremost from the victim’s point of view. However, in addition to the victim’s perspectives, we determined that measures must be carried out after the facts of the issues have been clearly verified.

As these problems occurred in the artist’s past when he was a student in elementary and middle school, we believe that it is necessary to carefully verify the facts and determine a course of action after examining these events as close to as they actually occurred as much as possible.

The artist himself has expressed his deep apology for the discomfort caused to all fans with the occurrence of this issue. He has temporarily suspended his activities, and has entrusted the company to carry out all necessary examinations of the facts.

Our company would also like to offer our sincere apology for the discomfort we have caused regarding our artist.

This statement is not an indication that we consider this issue to be resolved, and we will carry out the necessary measures as we verify the facts. However, we ask for your understanding as this is not a simple process and will take time.

Meeting those who have spoken out that they have been harmed, and verifying the facts and ensuring that they can be healed is the most important. In addition, please understand that we cannot consider any decision that may impact the entire life of the artist lightly and without verifying the facts. We promise that if any wrongdoing is found after this process, we will take clear and necessary measures.

Once again, please allow us to offer our apology in causing discomfort due to issues related to our artist.

original post: here

1. Anyways, people didn't even care about this statement, it seems like they are just trying to drag this longer

2. What's up with people bashing this post?... It's possible that he wasn't the assailant so are people just randomly cursing at him?..ㅋ

3. Meanwhile, it's true that there are a lot of parts in this post that was well-writtenㅋㅋ 

4. Just what was "well-written" about this post?

5. Why is Pledis acting like this? Anyways, seems like we'll have to wait longer

6. The part where it says "we are carefully examining all the issues. We would like to apologize that this process has delayed our response." was the most well-written part

7. Are the kids cursing at him here really in their right ming?ㅋㅋ

8. I was really wondering what Pledis was doing but seems like they were trying to solve this case. I hope that there are no more people wrongfully accused and that we get to know the truth soon

9. No but they said that they verified that the part where he cursed at a disabled was fake and were still confirming the rest so we don't know clearly if he was a school violence assailant or not yet. The kids who are screaming at him to withdraw just want to see someone ruin their life huh?

10. Let's just wait until everything is revealed

11. This was the best official statement yet. I can see that they are actively trying their best to verify the facts. They said that they will take action once they now the truth so let's just wait

Saturday, February 27, 2021

[enter-talk] MINGYU IS DEFINITELY NOT WITHDRAWING

 A whole day has past and they haven't announced anythingㅋㅋ I feel like they're still debating on whether to release an official statement and will just try to pass the burden in silence. So only Seventeen's image has been ruined and the fans' heads exploded

[theqoo] 2 DRAMAS THAT STARTED THE SPARK OF HOPE FOR JTBC'S DRAMAS AGAIN

Ever since The World of the Married, JTBC wasn't able to recover their viewer's rating
There weren't a lot of shows that surpassed 3% there were countless shows that were stuck between 1-2%
Nowadays, these are their saving grace for the Wed-Thur and Fri-Sat dramas

Sisyphus: The Myth
Wed, Thur 9:00 Jo Seungwoo, Park Shinhye

Friday, February 26, 2021

[enter-talk+theqoo] *TW SEXUAL HARASSMENT* SEVENTEEN MINGYU BASHING DISABLED PEOPLE + SEXUAL HARASSMENT CONTROVERSY

(t/n: we will paraphrase)

Preface:The post was written by OP after having validated the facts and experience of their acquaintances. It will only be laying out facts. The victims are scared that their personal identity might be revealed so OP will not divulge pictures/IDs/answer unrelated questions to the post/etc. 

The goal: The victims don't want apologies nor monetary settlement. They don't want what they've suffered from be distorted as a lie. They want the assailant and his fans who are trying to silence the victims to reflect on the truth. 

Introductions: 
A - Burim middle school's 97'er witness
B - Burim middle school's 97'er victim
A and B are friends
C - Burim middle school's 97'er victim (disabled) 
OP: A's friend, Anyang student, not from Burim middle school

Thursday, February 25, 2021

[enter-talk+theqoo] STRAY KIDS HYUNJIN'S ADDITIONAL VICTIM (THE VICTIM WANTS HIM TO WITHDRAW)

I still can't forget whenever you looked at me, you would swear at me, with those hateful eyes.

I still vividly remember trying to become less noticeable after seeing your gaze.

I wasn't the only one you've done it to in first grade right? You know that there are more victims. Please withdraw Hwang Hyunjin

Hwang Hyunjin's fans also wake up. He's only smiling at you guys because he's an idol now.

+

student ID

[theqoo] *UPDATED, JO BYUNG GYU DROPPED OFF* YOO JAESUK AND JO BYUNGGYU WAITING FOR THE PRODUCTION CREW

 T/N: Original title reads: The official recording of the reality show was scheduled on the 27th, but the production crew has not been able to take a decision to this day, a day before the shooting. Both Jo Byung Gyu and Yoo Jaesuk are still waiting for a response from the production crew.


Article talks about the pre-filming for Come Back Home should've taken place on the 20th, but they kept on pushing the date due to the school violence controversy of JBG. Furthermore, the official filming was planned to happen on the 27th, but even a day before the shooting, the production crew has yet to make a final decision. JBG and Yoo Jaesuk are waiting for the production crew's decision. 

The production crew responded that it would be burdensome to set put person who is being suspected for school violence on air with the nation's MC, especially when KBS have been facing a lot of issues including the recent increase in KBS license fees. His controversy is a bit different from Park Hyesoo's where the first accuser actually revealed that everything was a lie. JBG is currently undergoing police investigation.

original post: here

1. Byung Gyu-yah why would you be waiting... Your reaction was just a shameless too. I can't even bring myself to say anything. I bet the production crew are wishing him to just leave on his own.. 

2. No but you're telling me JBG is still going to shoot this variety? Aren't they cutting him off? Is he this shameless?

3. At this rate, even if he dies, he's not going out? 

4. I can understand for Dear M since they've already shot the entire thing, but why are they still thinking about this with Home? They haven't even started anything 

5. At this rate they need to drop either JBG or Yoo Jaesuk 

6. I just dare him to stand next to the nation's MC 

7. Why is JBG waiting too?ㅎㅎㅎ I can understand for Yoo Jaesuk 

8. What a burden seriously 

9. If he has any shame, the problematic kid needs to take himself out voluntarily 

10. F*cking shameless, how are they expecting Yoo Jaesuk to play with that guy? If he has any shame, he should voluntarily leave. Talk about poop smeared on Yoo-neunim the nation's MC. And what is KBS, a public TV doing without suspending a school violence assailant??? Cancel all of Dear M and take JBG off this show. 

11. If you can read the room, you should know how much of a burden you are right now. What is he going to do with the mood of the show? 

12. Princess-yah did your shame run away???

13. http://petitions.kbs.co.kr/section/ptt/view.html?petition_sno=10211 Let's sign KBS' petition to take him off the show 

14. Don't smear your poop on Yoo neu-nim

[theqoo] [EXCLUSIVE] KBS "COME BACK HOME", "SCHOOL VIOLENCE ALLEGATIONS" DROPS OFF JO BYUNG GYU... WE FELT HIS BURDEN ON A PUBLIC BROADCAST

A broadcast official told Sports Chosun on the 26th, "KBS decided to drop off JBG" and "We felt the burden as a public broadcaster as the controversy over the school violence continued."

original post: here

1. Good relief

2. Protect Yoo neunim

3. Ooh!!

4. Of course he had to be cut

5. Good~ voluntary withdrawal should've been better but JBG is just this shameless

6. Assa~~~

7. The obvious outcome

8. What about Youngji?

9. It's a relief it was still not filmed yet. So many parts of Dear M has been shot already, the staffs over there must have a headache

10. Shameless


[theqoo] THE MOST SEVERE TIME FOR SCHOOL VIOLENCE

FIY: Korean elementary/primary school goes from 1st grade to 6th grade (8 to 13 y'o), middle school goes from 1st grade to 3rd grade (13 to 16 y'o), and high school goes from 1st grade to 3rd grade (16 to 19 y'o)

[enter-talk] REGARDING SE*TEEN MIN*

I left my graduation certification / Psychiatric record certification in the previous article, so please check it. (t/n: https://pann.nate.com/b358043579)

Yes, I previously said that I will be writing additional information, so I am writing them now.

When I was in junior high school, I attended the 'ㅅ' academy on the second floor of the 'ㅎ' apartment complex in the back of the school.

There weren't many people [attending the academy] because the academy was small. All the same grade students were put in one class

Below is a simplified picture of the structure of the academy.

(No matter how much I looked for it, there was no picture.)


Wednesday, February 24, 2021

[enter-talk] JENNIE'S LIFE IS SOMEWHAT LIKE A NOVEL

She debuted in a big company and became the top idol
As soon as she made her YT channel, she got a few millions of subscribers and achieved a record worldwide
She's been chosen as the ambassador of the worldwide renown luxury brand Channel
She gets to date top male idols
She's close with world stars like Kendall Jenner and Rihanna

I'm not Jennie's fan but she's a female idol that I envy. Putting everything together like this really makes her life seems like that of a novel

post response:
[+601][-55]
original post: here

1. [+156, -2]
Seriously, her life must be so worth living... She's living her one and only life in the most splendid way possible

2. [+156, -5]
If a female lead of a novel had this life, people would say that the story is too exaggerated and would curse at the authorㅋㅋㅋㅋ That's just how perfect her life is

3. [+143, -3]
Also, Jennie was a fan of GD when she was young but she got to be a singer herself (and in the same company as GD), became an idol, earns a lot of money, bought a nice house and gets to date the person she was idolizing when she was young...

4. [+74, 0]
She was a fan of Kai and GD and is/has dating them.

5. [+53, -1]
It's straight up like a movie...

6. [+47, 0]
It's impressive that everything she wants to realize, she just realizes them once after the other.. I think that she's born with not only fortune but also skills and luck.. She's also been doing the best she's ever done despite being in this difficult Corona situation... She leads a rare life

7. [+36, 0]
She's like the female lead of those fanfics back in the days

Tuesday, February 23, 2021

[enter-talk] *TW: SUICIDE* STRAY KIDS HWANG HYUNJIN

(t/n: there are 5-10 articles coming out about this guy everyday, JYP has already said that they would be suing for defamation. The articles translated below will be the newest allegations after JYP's notice. We can hardly keep up with everything because there are too many appearing left and right, so we apologize if there are some outdated/missing context parts)

[enter-talk] STRAY KIDS HWANG HYUNJIN

Hi. I have posted a post on Etta (t/n: Everytime.Kr, this online community is a community specifically made for universities in Korea, just like JBG's case and many other cases, people have made allegations on Etta before coming to PANN), but I deleted that post in order to write this post. 
I am a victim of school violence from HHJ and his friend in the same class as me, in the second grade in Seongnae Middle School.
Just thinking about how I have even considered suicide because the past was so hellish for me, makes my hands tremble and my body shiver just with the memories of the past. 
Ever since this assailant debuted, whenever he would appear on TV, I was reminded of all the bad memories I had. Even now, because of the mental state I'm in, it's painful to even go through my daily life. 

He verbally abused me for failing to stop the ball during the ball game on campus and cursed at my body. 
I became his victim of bullying ever since I wasn't able to stop the ball, and ever since, I was mocked, ignored, and harassed by HHJ. 
He would make comments like "Are you (my name) in the group chat?" "You're just like OO" He would make jokes and remarks in the group chat by mentioning my name all the time. 
Things like that happened all the time, and whenever I saw the chat room, I couldn't bring myself to do anything and eventually fell in depression. In the end, I got so scared of the chatroom that I couldn't even enter it anymore. My self-esteem hit the bottom.

Besides this, there was another kid in the class who had the same first name as me. HHJ changed their last name to mine to see other people's reactions and they all started laughing saying how funny it was (most of the people in my class knew that I was the bullied one so everyone hated me). This left me with a big scar. Even if I want to wash it away, I still cannot wash it, and if I try to forget it, I cannot forget it. It is still difficult to deal with people because of the shocks, wounds, and trauma that I've received.

Without being able to express my dislike about other people, I just lived my life quietly until now. I would like to say that I had a lot of convers and had to gather a lot of courage to write this. It would've been hard for me to do this alone, but when I see the support around me, I gained courage to speak up. 

I was a victim and I don't want to have anything to do with malicious comments and hateful rumors.
I was attacked one-sided, unable to say a word.
There is no solid evidence, but I am living proof myself, nothing that I said was untruthful, and I am also collecting testimony from other alumni.
Sorry if I seem like I'm speaking without proofs. 
This is really what I went through as it happened. I don't want to overlook the pain that made me want to kill myself. I don't have any screencaps, recordings or videos, but I will gather testimonies from my acquaintances. 

This is me writing this after a lot of time has passed so of course there might be many missing parts, but for now, I briefly wrote down my pain based on the true facts that I experienced. Thank you for reading the long article.

I didn't write anything I couldn't remember well, and I'm proud that there is no single lie or exaggeration.

The first and second picture is the same person and a close friend in middle school. They contacted me after seeing the article that came out today.
The 3rd picture is another person from the same class
OP: I got bullied by that person right?
X: Right. If you have things to say, try sending this to JYP. So you don't have any data (proofs) at all?
OP: Nopㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ
X: When I saw that article, I thought of you right away 
OP: I need proofs that will show how I got to know he became a celebrity
X: We had to go to the study room together that time, and you said that you had to stop by home so I was waiting in the hallway. 
But when you came out, you told your mom you loved her and closed the door
OP: Yeah
X: At that point, I asked you why would you say "I love you" to your mom and you said that you were having it so hard, you didn't know when you would die because you were having a lot of those thoughts lately 
OP: Yeah at that time, I had it so hard
X: But this got me so upset, I still have memories of what you told me back then.. 
OP: Do you still remember things about me getting bullied by any chance? Since I don't have any other friends in my class TT 
X: I don't remember much about the bullying, but I remember him swearing and mixing your name with that other student with the same name as you. I also remember the response of that other student. [The student] couldn't get mad or say that they hated it, but you could tell they didn't like it.. Meanwhile HHJ was laughing



I know that this isn't considered proofs, but I'm attaching these pictures in case it can prove that I was in the same class as him and I got bullied

"-It's hard to pretend to be calm
- I'm pretending to be calm every day
- I'm f*cking sad
- I want to call you.. please save me.."

"Yeah, I'm having it so hard and I want to die. I'm sorry for worrying you. Sorry for purposely pretending to be calm"

post response:
[+723][+31]
original post: here

1. [+308, -17]
Seriously the more I read about him, the angrier I get. Hwang Hyunjin, I made a mistake liking you. Don't go around adding burden on people because of what you did and just withdrawㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ  Why isn't JYP saying anything? Do you guys think that [Stray Kids] will fail if they didn't have Hwang Hyunjin? Please withdraw and release your side of the story. If you're a Stay and you don't have an empty brain, you would know that the group is sufficient without Hwang Hyunjin.ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ  I'll never be able to say something like "Hwang Hyunjin, I'm on your side" so please just leave being a celebrity and take ownership of the damage you brought to the members, the team and the fans. Go kneel down to all your victims and apologize while crying

2. [+266, -8]
JYP always emphasizes on how much importance they give to personality, so are they going to kick him out..? ㅌㅋㅋㅋㅋㅌㅌㅋㅋ

3. [+192, -5]
There are still many victims coming out, and it shows that he only harasses girls, freaking pisses me off

4. [+93, -3]
He's legendary for having only girls as victims

5. [+89, -2]
Crazy.. Seriously what's up with him only having female victims? Freaking makes me want to curse. Withdraw already. I'm shocked this f*cker still has fangirls


[theqoo] VICTIM OF STRAY KIDS HWANG HYUNJIN WHO EVEN CONSIDERED SUICIDE

original post: here

1. He was somewhat likable.... but even though it was hard for me to overlook his ASK scandal (read here), I did my best to let it slide but this time, these claims are not something I can just overlook.... I'll wait for his statement

2. If JYP had any shame right now, they should stop hyping up his personality, sigh..

3. I can see in the expose post how sorry the victim feels... just how hurt was she... I'm sad for her...

4. I can see how he would only hurt girls

5. ㅎㅎㅎ seeing how he only picked on girls makes him look like a f*cking misogynist 

6. I would seriously be crying tears of blood if I learned that my kid had suicidal thoughts everyday

7. The victim is a girl once again

8. Wow his personality is f*cking trash

9. What is JYP gonna do? It's not something they can just overlook 

10. The texts are so sad

11. The part where she said she loved her mom was so sad

12. She wrote this without any typos and her post is also well-written so you can tell that she's a smart and nice kid. I hope that she can recover from her hurt....


[theqoo] MEANWHILE, JYP IS STILL UPLOADING CONTENTS ABOUT STRAY KIDS
 
"[EXCLUSIVE] Stray Kids Hyunjin's school violence allegations, JYP's rep "we are trying our best to uncover the truth.. Strong legal actions against malicious rumors"

They are still trying to confirm but..
But they uploaded this 3 hours ago

And of course, the member who's currently in a controversy is appearing

original post: here

1. Are they just gonna go on pretending not to know anything????? Didn't JYP say that they looked at the personality?

2. Stop saying that you guys look at the personality

3. Foreign fans only care about controversies about racism so they are just procrastinating on their response. Since they barely have any Korean fans and the foreign fans are being tolerant towards the school violence rumors they just went along and uploaded the video??

4. I've seen so many JYP-bugs who bragged about how JYP looks at personality. I wonder how they feel

5. They can read the personality but can't read the room

6. ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ I'm so speechless. If they were gonna write their official statement like that, might as well not write anything

7. There are so many people saying that JYP's statement was well-written and believe their sideㅋㅋㅋ wowㅋㅋㅋ

8. They are releasing contents while they are "confirming the truth" hul

9. You said you looked at personality

10. They were making such an image for themselves saying things like they will kick out someone if their personality was bad and whatnot ㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

11. You said you looked at personality though

12. Shamelessㅋㅋ Park Jinyoung, stop bullsh*tting about personality already


[theqoo] THE TEXTS THAT STRAY KIDS' HYUNJIN'S VICTIM SHARED....
"-It's hard to pretend to be calm
- I'm pretending to be calm every day
- I'm f*cking sad
- I want to call you.. please save me.."

"Yeah, I'm having it so hard and I want to die. I'm sorry for worrying you. Sorry for purposely pretending to be calm"

original post: here

1. So sad

2. I hope she finds strength

3. I don't think that she was texting her mom but her friend. Anyways, it proves that she was indeed having a hard time back then

4. Hul I can feel how hard she was having it ㅠㅠ

5. It must have been hell to see him appear on broadcast every time aigoo...

6. The part where she asks to save her is too sad ㅜㅜ

7. I can feel her pain. This is so sad ㅜㅜ

8. Aigo.. what to do ㅠㅠㅠㅠ

9. This seems like the worst scandal so far. I wonder what JYP will do..ㅋ

10. This breaks my heart but what's even sadder is that despite all the hurt she received, she didn't receive one apology. This is seriously awful. I hope that she finds strength and receives an apology soon

[theqoo] JYP'S POSITION REGARDING HWANG HYUNJIN'S ALLEGATIONS WAS A BIT DIFFERENT FROM OTHER COMPANIES

Original title sounds something along these lines: JYP's position was different from other companies, because other companies all claimed that the allegations were definitely false report


Statement: 
Hello. This is JYPE.

We are releasing our statement regarding the issue related to Hyunjin that is spreading on various online communities.

First, our company is doing our best to confirm the truth regarding this issue.

We are listening to the opinions of people from the school that the member attended as well as the opinions of other acquaintances regarding the issues that were raised, and we are also considering listening directly to the opinion of the writer, if they allow it.

However, we have confirmed that there are many untrue parts of the post that is currently spreading indiscriminately, and we have identified people who are purposely creating malicious rumors and disseminating them. We will conduct a detailed investigation through various routes and find the undistorted, exact truth. We plan to take legal action regarding the spread of false information.

We will do our best for the protection of our artist by finding the clear truth, and we will take strong action regarding the spreading of false rumors.

Thank you
Cr. Soompi

The position of JYP Entertainment draws attention to the fact that it is a different move from other companies who confronted the controversy and stated they were without a doubt "false reports". The management companies from people including Park Hyesoo, Kim Donghee, and Soojin, who have been in controversies prior to Hwang Hyunjin, are sticking to the position of “unfounded facts” even though additional disclosures toward the celebrities are coming out one after another.


original post: here

1. What kind of company media play is this? 

2. Such a hilarious companyㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ  Their media play is severeㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ 

3. Ah the media playㅋㅋ  Just from the title alone, everyone can see how obvious they are except themselves

4. Are they really media playing in a situation like this? 

5. Look at the image makingㅋㅋㅋ So cringyㅋㅋㅋ

6. What the? All they care about is the company's image

7. JYP is going back and forth with their statement with Stray Kidsㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ Why are they media playing like this 

8. Meanwhile JYP taking this opportunity to media play about the company's imageㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ

9. In the end it still looks like they'll take drastic actions to protect their artist

10. Pretending they're saintsㅋㅋㅋ