They summarized it well
The reason why I don't get why all companies are lumped together is this
Right now, no matter what the country is, what overseas kids preferences are > What will usually do well domestically
Usually, we need a lot of fans to gather and make it become the general public's pick and they will chew all the digital charts, so that the song will become known from mouth to ear.
If you look at BTS, before the US response came, they were already a group that was known even to male students.
But if you look at what people are trying to do nowadays
From the start, they're trying to focus on overseas right away --> They start aiming towards international market, so of course, they'll have good response overseas --> but domestically, nobody will care about those people, we even end up questioning whether they were even meant to hit big in the first place
--> If we say "we've never heard of them" the fans will all boil in rage and show us their results from overseas saying stuff like "they're doing well" --> even so if they're not even in the HOT100 charts' top, nobody will f*cking care about them domestically
--> First of all, if they get a good response overseas, they'll be able to earn good money --> vicious cycle start --> but in reality, they're not even considered mainstream overseas either --> So we're ending up making groups that are lukewarm both domestically and overseas
--> The general public nowadays are all wondering "why are there so many idols I don't know of?" "Idols nowadays are just living in their own world" and they lose interest --> Idols recognition drop --> General public doesn't want to listen to them so they fail in digital charts --> They still live in their world believing they're doing well even though we've never seen them in the charts --> interest drop even more
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1. [+245, -23]
For example Stray Kids and Ateez
> JYP really ruined their marketing for Stray Kids f*ck... I'm a Stray Kids fan but their Korean fans can be counted on my fingers.. ㅠㅠ They're so talented and get along with each other, they're not pretentious and they can be the best idols... Seriously their image making and promotions are just not it... I'm so upset
> Other groups who have just as little fans domestically with a bunch of I-roaches are the likes of Treasure and Enhypen, but these kids don't get sworn atㅋㅋ Since the fans don't brag about their fame overseas~
> Seriously Stray Kids fans are so severe, they're always bringing down other idols especially other female idols. They say stuff like their oppas are more handsome and whenever we tell them that they're flops, they will bring out some random international chart
> Why are people dragging Monsta X here?
> Looks like the ZZZ are getting dragged lately (t/n: The Boyz, Ateez, Stray kids)
> Why are you putting all ZZZ together? The Boyz actually has good results domestically, they're f*cking differentㅋ
> Stray kids are only good physically, I've never seen them once in Melon's real time chartsㅋㅋㅋ
2. [+244, -2]
Straight up facts, especially for male idolsㅋㅋㅋㅋㅋ They do not a single f*cking hit song, but because they're doing a bit well overseas, and sell well physically, they think they're some A-list idols
3. [+240, -0]
If you want me to tell you what they need to hit big, the biggest issue for most of them is their concept..
4. [+130, -3]
EXO, BTS, Seventeen, Winner and BTOB are the only ones who really have their distinct color, they're robust domestically and that's why people overseas like them... But the thing that's similar for all of them is that they all debuted before Produceㅋㅋ After Produce, name me one group who did as well as them? After 2017, none of the groups left an impact
5. [+123, -4]
This is all because of Produce, it really ruined the idol industry, right now, we just have those "quick fix" type groups
6. [+102, -4]
Nowadays, all the girl groups are trying to go for the Black Pink girl crush concept.... They know that people overseas love the girl crush concept, but do they not know what a real strong girl crush concept look like? All we have are laughable girl crush concepts that just make me want to sigh
7. [+94, -11]
Seriously is NCT's fandom considered a true fandom.. Although it's not a group made for overseas market, they have zero public recognition but they have a relatively big fandom..
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